Comments on: A Weird Political Argument http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/ Pragmatic Libertarianism Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:48:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Jeremy Manning http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-860 Jeremy Manning Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:02:44 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-860 Hey Anonymous, Quit cussing in church. Its one thing to "be yourself" it is another to subject people to profanity while they are in Sacrament Meeting. I'm assuming the "d" word you're talking about is a swear...if not...what is your point? Either way...thanks for making it to my webpage to leave your insightful comment. Hey Anonymous,

Quit cussing in church. Its one thing to “be yourself” it is another to subject people to profanity while they are in Sacrament Meeting.

I’m assuming the “d” word you’re talking about is a swear…if not…what is your point?

Either way…thanks for making it to my webpage to leave your insightful comment.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-851 Anonymous Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:26:48 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-851 I actually have said the d word several times at sacrament. Why sould it be uncomfortable? I believe that it was Augustus Faust who said, "be yourself". I actually have said the d word several times at sacrament. Why sould it be uncomfortable? I believe that it was Augustus Faust who said, “be yourself”.

]]> By: Rob Miller http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-800 Rob Miller Sat, 04 Mar 2006 17:59:26 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-800 Sorry, typos, typos, typos capitalizations!!! It has been a long week. Jeremy, I have tried to link your blog but for some reason it is not working. Any ideas? Rob Sorry, typos, typos, typos capitalizations!!!
It has been a long week.

Jeremy, I have tried to link your blog but for some reason it is not working. Any ideas?

Rob

]]> By: Rob Miller http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-796 Rob Miller Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:49:41 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-796 Not everyone will always agree with every statement I make, or understand it. But without hesitation I will say it again, "would you let your stake president get away with this?" My thoughts are this, although I love my stake president I would not, I could not, and yet so many of us here in Utah turn a blind eye to the corruption of the Bush administration and the leadership of the national republican party. As an active member of the LDS Church I am amazed that so many of our memebers turn a blind eye to this corruption. I am also troubled that very often if one asks a serious question, one that does have substance, it is portrayed as being anti-LDS. I stand behind the statement at the end of my post. The truth is you might forgive your Stake President for un-ethical business pratices but would you let him get away with it? I would not. On another note. The comment, "The Republicans might have problems, but I don’t see how the Democrat’s big-government values will resonate with Utahns–unless the Democrats can convince people that since many of them have a patriarchal church, they need a patriarchal government." Take a look at SB200. It is not the Democrats who belive in bigger government it is the republicans. The entire world has been sold a bag of goods about the "conservative" government represted by the republican party. There is nothing conservative about it. In ending, Harry Nilsson had a great line from his album, "The Point" which states, "we see what we want to see, and hear what we want to hear." Nate, please have your wife read my ost and then give her my phone number. I would be honored to talk and listen to her viewpoint, I would love to also share mine. Great Blog! With every best wish, Rob Miller Vice Chair Utah State Democratic Party 801-706-6203 Bountiful, Utah Not everyone will always agree with every statement I make, or understand it. But without hesitation I will say it again, “would you let your stake president get away with this?”

My thoughts are this, although I love my stake president I would not, I could not, and yet so many of us here in Utah turn a blind eye to the corruption of the Bush administration and the leadership of the national republican party.

As an active member of the LDS Church I am amazed that so many of our memebers turn a blind eye to this corruption. I am also troubled that very often if one asks a serious question, one that does have substance, it is portrayed as being anti-LDS.

I stand behind the statement at the end of my post. The truth is you might forgive your Stake President for un-ethical business pratices but would you let him get away with it? I would not.

On another note. The comment, “The Republicans might have problems, but I don’t see how the Democrat’s big-government values will resonate with Utahns–unless the Democrats can convince people that since many of them have a patriarchal church, they need a patriarchal government.”

Take a look at SB200. It is not the Democrats who belive in bigger government it is the republicans. The entire world has been sold a bag of goods about the “conservative” government represted by the republican party. There is nothing conservative about it.

In ending, Harry Nilsson had a great line from his album, “The Point” which states, “we see what we want to see, and hear what we want to hear.” Nate, please have your wife read my ost and then give her my phone number. I would be honored to talk and listen to her viewpoint, I would love to also share mine.

Great Blog!

With every best wish,

Rob Miller
Vice Chair
Utah State Democratic Party
801-706-6203
Bountiful, Utah

]]> By: Daniel http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-788 Daniel Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:41:14 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-788 You know I'm not saying that the Republicans are necessarily better. I'm just saying what the perception of Democrats is right now. Having Howard Dean as the head of the DNC only makes the perception of what the Democratic party is worse. His anti-religious views don't help the Utah Democratic party. You know I’m not saying that the Republicans are necessarily better. I’m just saying what the perception of Democrats is right now. Having Howard Dean as the head of the DNC only makes the perception of what the Democratic party is worse. His anti-religious views don’t help the Utah Democratic party.

]]> By: Nate http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-786 Nate Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:52:14 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-786 Dan all I can say is you'd better hope my wife doesn't read your post or she'll write a response the likes of which you just may not survive... Dan all I can say is you’d better hope my wife doesn’t read your post or she’ll write a response the likes of which you just may not survive…

]]> By: Daniel http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-779 Daniel Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:55:14 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/02/28/a-weird-political-argument/#comment-779 It is tough to change Utah culture so that Democrats aren't considered un-mormon. The Democratic party is the party of wack job Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi. It is the party of abortion and welfare. I don't see how these values are compatible with Utahns' values of industry, self reliance, and the value of work. The Republicans might have problems, but I don't see how the Democrat's big-government values will resonate with Utahns--unless the Democrats can convince people that since many of them have a patriarchal church, they need a patriarchal government. It is tough to change Utah culture so that Democrats aren’t considered un-mormon. The Democratic party is the party of wack job Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi. It is the party of abortion and welfare. I don’t see how these values are compatible with Utahns’ values of industry, self reliance, and the value of work.

The Republicans might have problems, but I don’t see how the Democrat’s big-government values will resonate with Utahns–unless the Democrats can convince people that since many of them have a patriarchal church, they need a patriarchal government.

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