Comments on: My Votes and My Predictions http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/ Pragmatic Libertarianism Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:01:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Sare http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1907 Sare Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:59:28 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1907 Siiighhh... I was just telling my husband the other day that I don't think Ashdown has a chance. Orrin Hatch will continue to be elected until he retires. Or dies, like you said. Siiighhh… I was just telling my husband the other day that I don’t think Ashdown has a chance. Orrin Hatch will continue to be elected until he retires. Or dies, like you said.

]]> By: Don Milne http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1901 Don Milne Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:06:53 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1901 Kim Burningham is more diserving of the "Soviet Style" label. He sides with the secular humanist phlisophies of education, defers more to the UEA than the parents of school children, and is not a supporter of free market reform for education. What is more Soviet than a government school system that refuses to consider reforms that benefit individual students? A vote for Burningham is a vote for more of the same and higher spending to pay teachers more regardless of their competence. Good teachers should be paid more. Bad teachers should be shown the door. Kim Burningham is more diserving of the “Soviet Style” label. He sides with the secular humanist phlisophies of education, defers more to the UEA than the parents of school children, and is not a supporter of free market reform for education. What is more Soviet than a government school system that refuses to consider reforms that benefit individual students? A vote for Burningham is a vote for more of the same and higher spending to pay teachers more regardless of their competence. Good teachers should be paid more. Bad teachers should be shown the door.

]]> By: Rob Miller http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1899 Rob Miller Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:43:57 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1899 Thank you. Thank you.

]]> By: Jeremy Manning http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1891 Jeremy Manning Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:23:46 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1891 Pete, Thanks for the comment :-) Nice to see you have time during the campaign to check up on blogs. You earned my vote. I watched you and Hatch on KSL last night and I really think anyone who paid attention to the substance of the discussion has to agree that you would be a far better Senator for Utah than Orrin Hatch has been. Thank you. Pete,

Thanks for the comment :-) Nice to see you have time during the campaign to check up on blogs.

You earned my vote. I watched you and Hatch on KSL last night and I really think anyone who paid attention to the substance of the discussion has to agree that you would be a far better Senator for Utah than Orrin Hatch has been. Thank you.

]]> By: Pete Ashdown http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1890 Pete Ashdown Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:11:01 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1890 Thanks for your vote Jeremy. Thanks for your vote Jeremy.

]]> By: Jeremy Manning http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1889 Jeremy Manning Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:13:33 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1889 Frank, I like your philosophy about not voting for Dems who are afraid to put their party on their signs. Republican dominance is "soviet-like" in that our government in Utah isn't decided in the general election it is decided by the Republican party in its caucus and conventions just as leaders in Soviet Russia were chosen by the Politburo then the Supreme Soviet before being "elected" by the voters in the general elections. Jesse, I used to be a 3rd party supporter too. I just don't think they work well in our system for lots of reasons...but mainly the one you cite. The extremists always rule the day and there is never a platform for dealing with real life issues. Unfortunately the modern Democratic Party has been acting a lot like a third party itself. That will change soon though. I really think Republicans have worn out their welcome. Change is coming. Maybe not this election...but soon. Frank,

I like your philosophy about not voting for Dems who are afraid to put their party on their signs.

Republican dominance is “soviet-like” in that our government in Utah isn’t decided in the general election it is decided by the Republican party in its caucus and conventions just as leaders in Soviet Russia were chosen by the Politburo then the Supreme Soviet before being “elected” by the voters in the general elections.

Jesse,

I used to be a 3rd party supporter too. I just don’t think they work well in our system for lots of reasons…but mainly the one you cite. The extremists always rule the day and there is never a platform for dealing with real life issues.

Unfortunately the modern Democratic Party has been acting a lot like a third party itself. That will change soon though. I really think Republicans have worn out their welcome. Change is coming. Maybe not this election…but soon.

]]> By: Jesse http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1888 Jesse Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:12:29 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1888 The Constitution Party has the same problem: crazy extremists that can tell you what they stand for, but can't tell you what they'll do. Principle Before Policy, that's them. The Constitution Party has the same problem: crazy extremists that can tell you what they stand for, but can’t tell you what they’ll do. Principle Before Policy, that’s them.

]]> By: Frank Johns http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1887 Frank Johns Thu, 26 Oct 2006 03:34:04 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1887 “The Soviet like dominance of Republicans in Utah…” I'm not sure what is Soviet-like about the Republicans' dominance. I guess the comparison is lost on me. It's clear Republicans overwhelmingly control state politics in Utah, and politics in most counties (but not Salt Lake County). I guess the "problem" is that (a) voters like Republicans more, and (b) the Democrats can't shake their national party's reputation created in recent years by the extremists who control the party. I guess that's the reason most Democratic candidates are ashamed to indicate their political party on their campaign signs. I'm impressed by those few Democrats who have the courage to put it on their signs and own up to it. That alone may be reason to vote for them. As for the others, if they feel so strongly that an overwhelmingly Republican majority is not good for Utah, they should proudly state that they are Democrats. A few weeks ago I made a vow to not vote for any Democrat whose signs don't say what party he or she belongs to. Finally, the one place I think political party really does mean something is with federal candidates. The first vote a Democratic congressman will cast in January will be for Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the house. Nothing against her personally, but she represents the very fringe, loopy liberal philosophy that turns off so many Utahns from the Democratic party. “The Soviet like dominance of Republicans in Utah…”

I’m not sure what is Soviet-like about the Republicans’ dominance. I guess the comparison is lost on me.

It’s clear Republicans overwhelmingly control state politics in Utah, and politics in most counties (but not Salt Lake County). I guess the “problem” is that (a) voters like Republicans more, and (b) the Democrats can’t shake their national party’s reputation created in recent years by the extremists who control the party.

I guess that’s the reason most Democratic candidates are ashamed to indicate their political party on their campaign signs. I’m impressed by those few Democrats who have the courage to put it on their signs and own up to it. That alone may be reason to vote for them. As for the others, if they feel so strongly that an overwhelmingly Republican majority is not good for Utah, they should proudly state that they are Democrats. A few weeks ago I made a vow to not vote for any Democrat whose signs don’t say what party he or she belongs to.

Finally, the one place I think political party really does mean something is with federal candidates. The first vote a Democratic congressman will cast in January will be for Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the house. Nothing against her personally, but she represents the very fringe, loopy liberal philosophy that turns off so many Utahns from the Democratic party.

]]> By: Reach Upward http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1878 Reach Upward Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:50:54 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1878 We do need a second party to become competitive in Utah to approach good government. Your analysis of what Dems need to do to build support is quite cogent. We do need a second party to become competitive in Utah to approach good government. Your analysis of what Dems need to do to build support is quite cogent.

]]> By: Jeremy Manning http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1870 Jeremy Manning Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:09:34 +0000 http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2006/10/24/my-votes-and-my-predictions/#comment-1870 Ugh...the Republican dynasty hasn't reached its apex yet? How sad for me and the 3-5 other "Deemocrots" in Davis county! Ugh…the Republican dynasty hasn’t reached its apex yet? How sad for me and the 3-5 other “Deemocrots” in Davis county!

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