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	<title>Comments on: Shurtleff:  Remember, Even Harmless Fun Is Illegal In Utah</title>
	<link>http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2008/03/11/shurtleff-remembereven-harmless-fun-is-illegal-in-utah/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nosurfgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2008/03/11/shurtleff-remembereven-harmless-fun-is-illegal-in-utah/#comment-180652</link>
		<author>nosurfgirl</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly.  Utah has a rich history of legislating morality.  In fact, back in the day, Bishops doubled as legislators.  I guess we've come a ways since then :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly.  Utah has a rich history of legislating morality.  In fact, back in the day, Bishops doubled as legislators.  I guess we&#8217;ve come a ways since then <img src='http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2008/03/11/shurtleff-remembereven-harmless-fun-is-illegal-in-utah/#comment-175939</link>
		<author>Daniel</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you don't understand Jeremy is that office pools are "gateway gambling" just like marijuana is a gateway drug. It only takes an office pool to turn Joe Citizen into a gambling addict, wasting all his money in Wendover and Vegas! We must stop this sickness before it spreads. Call the AG's office!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you don&#8217;t understand Jeremy is that office pools are &#8220;gateway gambling&#8221; just like marijuana is a gateway drug. It only takes an office pool to turn Joe Citizen into a gambling addict, wasting all his money in Wendover and Vegas! We must stop this sickness before it spreads. Call the AG&#8217;s office!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Manning</title>
		<link>http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2008/03/11/shurtleff-remembereven-harmless-fun-is-illegal-in-utah/#comment-175915</link>
		<author>Jeremy Manning</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've lived in several states in this great nation but Utah is the only one where the AG publicly calls out citizens in the days before the NCAA tournament and warns against gambling.  Again...aren't there any real crimes out there that authorities should be focusing on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve lived in several states in this great nation but Utah is the only one where the AG publicly calls out citizens in the days before the NCAA tournament and warns against gambling.  Again&#8230;aren&#8217;t there any real crimes out there that authorities should be focusing on?</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2008/03/11/shurtleff-remembereven-harmless-fun-is-illegal-in-utah/#comment-175903</link>
		<author>Cameron</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2008/03/11/shurtleff-remembereven-harmless-fun-is-illegal-in-utah/#comment-175903</guid>
		<description>I don't know, I read your online news reference, and I don't see where Shurtleff is threatening to arrest people for bracket pools.  I see a reporter quoting an official from Shurtleff's office saying that under the current law, yes, those pools are illegal.  I have yet to hear of anyone being arrested for it.  I also note that it's illegal in &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; state.  But I guess it's only "draconian" in Utah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, I read your online news reference, and I don&#8217;t see where Shurtleff is threatening to arrest people for bracket pools.  I see a reporter quoting an official from Shurtleff&#8217;s office saying that under the current law, yes, those pools are illegal.  I have yet to hear of anyone being arrested for it.  I also note that it&#8217;s illegal in <i>every</i> state.  But I guess it&#8217;s only &#8220;draconian&#8221; in Utah.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2008/03/11/shurtleff-remembereven-harmless-fun-is-illegal-in-utah/#comment-175864</link>
		<author>Daniel</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is silly is that March Maddess pools are illegal almost everywhere in the US, but most AGs don't get their panties in a twist because of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is silly is that March Maddess pools are illegal almost everywhere in the US, but most AGs don&#8217;t get their panties in a twist because of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Manning</title>
		<link>http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2008/03/11/shurtleff-remembereven-harmless-fun-is-illegal-in-utah/#comment-175849</link>
		<author>Jeremy Manning</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2008/03/11/shurtleff-remembereven-harmless-fun-is-illegal-in-utah/#comment-175849</guid>
		<description>Also from the article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

Roberts says gambling is gambling. "If you're betting $20, a can of peas, or if you're betting $10,000, you're still risking something of value and it still could be a crime under the law," he said. "

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Cameron, defend Utah's draconian ban on office pools, home poker games, or bingo if you want but don't distort the record.  Utah's AG is threatening everyone who does these things not just people who wager online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also from the article:</p>
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<p>Roberts says gambling is gambling. &#8220;If you&#8217;re betting $20, a can of peas, or if you&#8217;re betting $10,000, you&#8217;re still risking something of value and it still could be a crime under the law,&#8221; he said. &#8221;</p>
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<p>Cameron, defend Utah&#8217;s draconian ban on office pools, home poker games, or bingo if you want but don&#8217;t distort the record.  Utah&#8217;s AG is threatening everyone who does these things not just people who wager online.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2008/03/11/shurtleff-remembereven-harmless-fun-is-illegal-in-utah/#comment-175840</link>
		<author>Daniel</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn't realized that Eliot Spitzer had resigned as the Governor of New York and moved to Utah to be the AG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t realized that Eliot Spitzer had resigned as the Governor of New York and moved to Utah to be the AG.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2008/03/11/shurtleff-remembereven-harmless-fun-is-illegal-in-utah/#comment-175832</link>
		<author>Cameron</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.themannings.org/soapbox/2008/03/11/shurtleff-remembereven-harmless-fun-is-illegal-in-utah/#comment-175832</guid>
		<description>From the article:

"We received a March Madness play book in the mail for an online gambling site called BetUS.com. We found it interesting because it's being mailed to Utahns even though &lt;b&gt;online betting isn't legal here or anywhere in the U.S.&lt;/b&gt; Yet it would seem from the brochure that it's perfectly legal."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article:</p>
<p>&#8220;We received a March Madness play book in the mail for an online gambling site called BetUS.com. We found it interesting because it&#8217;s being mailed to Utahns even though <b>online betting isn&#8217;t legal here or anywhere in the U.S.</b> Yet it would seem from the brochure that it&#8217;s perfectly legal.&#8221;</p>
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